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2024‐06‐14
Attendance (15): Mike Gower, Bruce Bailey, Alastair Campbell, Ken Franqueiro, Detlev Fisher, Francis Storr, Filippo Zorzi, Scott O'Hara, Giacomo Petri, Dan Bjorge, Patrick Lauke, Duff Johnson, Gundula Neuman, Jaunita George, Lori Oakley
Attendance (15): Mike Gower, Bruce Bailey, Alastair Campbell, Ken Franqueiro, Detlev Fisher, Francis Storr, Filippo Zorzi, Scott O'Hara, Giacomo Petri, Dan Bjorge, Patrick Lauke, Duff Johnson, Gundula Neuman, Jaunita George, Lori Oakley
Regrets: Steve Faulkner
Postponing sending PRs to AG by a week. Part of that caused by Bruce not being careful with "resolved" in discussion portion of PR, and we had collision on Understanding for 1.4.1
Per usual, working from project board.
9 items in Errata for CFC column. Alastair prefers to collect a few more before sending.
Remove "1280 pixels wide" test step from F94 #3739 since this is resize text and not Reflow, can be simplified. This PR combined with another PR already Ready for Approval.
Tweak understanding for 1.2.3 and 1.2.5 #1790 clarifies that if no gaps in dialog, AD will be weak (and so alternative should be provided) and lack of gaps in dialogue not sufficient at AAA. We may want to add new technique for ducking non-speech audio. Reply needed to Issue thread. Closes How to add audio descriptions to videos? #1768 which is very long discussion thread.
Added "Duplicated text" as guidance to fulfil the 1.4.5 Images of Text success criterion in the Understanding Document #3773 updated from recent feedback and on call. Patrick recommends borrowing more literally from the SC phrasing for the scenarios described. Mike askes to have guidance to have less overlap with from 1.1.1. Patrick noted that "technologies" is not specific vague and could understood to apply to, for example, limitations of the CMS (and not CSS/HTML specs). Giacomo is trying provide guidance so that authors who fail 1.4.5 (on its face), but have the information in text (and maybe CAV is applicable), do not have an incentive to skip providing machine-readable text. alternative text 1.1.1 to avoid failing both SC. Folks on call all agree that ALT value is not a way to meet 1.1.1. Folks on call also agree that with actual text nearby, so the text is on the same page (and per page-oriented conformance model), text is available and visible on the page and should not fail 1.4.5. Moved to ready Ready for Approval
Tweak understanding for 1.2.3 and 1.2.5 #1790 including mention of audio ducking.
Changes to 1.4.1 Use of Color understanding #1788 and overlap with 1.4.1 Use of color: adding examples to understanding text #3717.
?? Added "Duplicated text" as a sufficient technique to fulfill the 1.4.5 Images of Text success criterion in the Understanding Document #3773 discussion deferred, as will not be quick. PR status remains as drafted.
?? Remove irrelevant preamble and first step from F94, future-proof expected results #3876 overlaps with Remove "1280 pixels wide" test step from F94 #3739 which is in already in Sent to WG queue. Keeping this PR in drafted, and Patrick will follow-up as needed.
?? how to ref techniques? is it more than <a href="../aria/ARIA24">ARIA24</a> ?
That discussion did not leave time on coordination call for time to reviewing Francis' Chore: delete stale branches #3878.